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1. the importance of T2 BPOs - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Kara Books wrote: Gentlemen, please, The forum topic reads: "the importance of T2 BPOs" This is not a topic about "moaning" or terrible things, its simply here to asses, what is the current importance of T2 BPO's in the current state of affa...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2012.04.28 20:14:00
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2. the importance of T2 BPOs - in Science and Industry [original thread]
T2 BPO's were a balance issue before the introduction of the invention system. There is no way to undo the lottery, most prints are not owned by those who won them from such. What you guys are really proposing is taking stuff from those players wh...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2012.04.17 18:18:00
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3. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 19/02/2011 11:31:46 they are overpowered because they ruin the invention market but offer a terrible ROI so only complete idiots, collectors or peeps/corps with already too mu...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.02.19 23:38:00
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4. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 18/02/2011 10:30:08 Originally by: Stella SGP So if "common sense" is preventing newer players from buying, then how does it make it unfair, just because older players...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.02.19 01:19:00
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5. New player facing facing losses on every BPC I see - in Science and Industry [original thread]
This ongoing argument only serves to demonstrate the importance of consistency in accounting, and the value of well defined accounting principles. There are virtually limitless valid ways in which a given operation could be broken down to fit onto...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.02.04 23:16:00
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6. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Kaya Divien See it this way, only because lottery isn't available to new players,t2 bpos should be removed. Because they cant experience that side of EvE - lottery. As has been stated many, many times now... there is NO w...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.01.04 17:03:00
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7. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Karn Velora You have to admit it's funny though, that the main defense argument for keeping the T2 BPOs comes down to "it doesn't matter, there's's no advantage, there's no extra profit" . If in fact the BPOs have no real a...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.01.04 16:41:00
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8. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Edited by: Shai ''Hulud on 04/01/2011 08:10:56 Originally by: Kaya Divine Originally by: Stella SGP If you think its unfair for new players then maybe a persistent universe game like EVE isn't for you... All games which eve...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.01.04 08:10:00
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9. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Edited by: Shai ''Hulud on 03/01/2011 19:11:45 Originally by: Karn Velora Here's a reason to remove the T2 BPOs: After all these years, the topic is still ****ing people off to the degree that the current thread is up to 27 pages. Doe...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2011.01.03 19:11:00
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10. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
For example, look at the change in profitability for a print like the Hornet II BPO over the last year. The rise in the cost of robotics, due to planetary interaction, has hit a print like this proportionally very hard, changing profit per drone f...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 18:21:00
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11. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Or, that the item they make will become less used. It happens nearly every major patch that a type of print is either buffed or nerfed, indirectly.
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 17:44:00
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12. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
You have to take the losses with the gains m8... didn't say I'm hurting for isk I don't think of myself, or anyone else, as stupid just because we can't predict the future 100% accurately. Truth is that there is risk involved in T2 BPO investmen...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 17:32:00
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13. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Also, I'm aware that my 200b "X" print is stretching it, but you were making the argument that the cost didn't matter AT ALL... which is simply false.
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 17:22:00
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14. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Sig Sour No, you misunderstand. If you buy something for 1b, and sell it for 1b, there is no " cost " to using it. If you buy it for 1b and sell it for 900m, then there is 100m cost involved. If you buy something for 1b and ...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 17:20:00
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15. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Sig Sour Originally by: Shai 'Hulud I'm quite positive the "cost" Akita is referring to is the opportunity cost and/or the cost of purchasing the print to begin with. By your logic, you should have no problem buying ...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.29 16:43:00
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16. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Shai 'Hulud Again, not surprised you can't think of ways to fully use 30b to make isk. The problem isn't in finding a single use for 30B ISK - the problem is in finding continual uses...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.28 01:42:00
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17. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Again, not surprised you can't think of ways to fully use 30b to make isk.
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.28 01:28:00
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18. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Liang Nuren What is the opportunity cost in keeping a 30B ISK item that makes 12B/year and will sell for even more next year? TBH the only reason to sell it is because you think its about to get nerfed or you CBA to install ...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.28 01:22:00
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19. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Originally by: Sig Sour Originally by: Akita T No, it's not God Mode, it's "easy mode at a high cost", we've covered this several times over. Poor Akita. Cost is the money used up (meaning you don't have it anymore) to produ...
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.28 00:52:00
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20. To people that want to remove T2 BPOs : give a GOOD reason why - in Science and Industry [original thread]
Quote: ... a really bad attempt ... You still forgot to quote like this Stella Paraphrasing disguised as a quote also works
- by Shai 'Hulud - at 2010.12.27 04:29:00
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